we make art / we invent ourselves

we celebrate truth / we relish pretend

With/out Pretend is an independent Toronto-based publisher focused on producing, promoting and distributing works by women, including those who identify as femme, queer, trans, and persons of colour. 




inspired by unresolved feelings


You Care Too Much

creative women on the question of self-care


Things I Do When I Feel Blue

a self-care zine 

There is a strength that can only be found in vulnerability. Klassen has created a safe space in which women can explore that, and in those explorations, the artists become powerful.
— She Does The City

Featured in

CBC Life


The Toronto Star

Broken Pencil Magazine


"This book looks as beautiful as it reads. I

t’s a thoughtfully-made self-published work that emphasizes the imprints that relationships make on the psyche and soul, and the importance of reflection and renewed self-discovery from a very empathetic female perspective.”

Broken Pencil Magazine


"This book is blend of poetry, fiction, confessional writing, art and photography that is sure to kindle thoughts and ideas for you to consider and discuss, not to mention the act of taking a time out to read is an act of self-love in itself."

CBC Life


"Things I Do When I Feel Blue knows that healing comes from adhering to your own expectations and realities, and doing the best you can with the energy you've got."

Alison Lang